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Re: How To Evaluate-Judge-Quantify

Philly the Kid (apriori@slip.net)
Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:34:01 -0500

>if we are talking about jazz why aren't we bringing up ornette coleman...he
>was the true innovator of free jazz...and invented harmalodics. if we are
>going to talk about jazz lets talk about good jazz.....and what about sun
>ra??

First of all, for many, Jazz aka African American CLassical Music is a term
braod enough to include the majority if not all musical contributions of
African Americans throughout their history in North AMerica.

What do you mean "good jazz"? How would you define good?

WHy are Sun Ra and Ornette Coleman innovators and BB King not? Is Wynton
Marsalis an innovator? Ornette invented Harmelodics over 30 years ago - is
he still an innovator? Does he get a lifetime membershup to the innovative
musicians club? Sun Ra started out playing stride piano and arranging like
Flethcer Henderson, when and why did he become innovative?

Rico